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Monday, July 02, 2007

Not a "worthy and essential goal"

Today's Record contains an editorial decrying a recent Supreme Court decision that banned the use of race as a factor in school admissions decisions as a "step backward." The premise underlying this view is that "racial diversity in the nation's classrooms, as in its communities, is a worthy and essential goal." It appears to me, however, that what is "backward" is the view of the Record staff.

As support for the claim that the nation's march toward integrated public schools has stalled, the paper points out that in Teaneck, a town with a proud history of taking the lead in ending segregation, "three-quarters of the district's student population is minority." This factoid is apparently intended to illustrate that Teaneck's efforts to "achieve racial balance in its schools by slightly altering school boundaries when necessary" is insufficient and that the Court should countenance more aggressive methods of guaranteeing whatever is considered the appropriate mix of skin pigmentation in a given educational institution.

One wonders, however, what it is about the color of one's skin that could possibly enhance the educational experience. Is making sure that classrooms contain a full palette of skin shades really what we should be after? What inherent difference is there among people of different coloring?

We might assume it is some kind of laziness or inadvertent oversimplification rather that leads the Record staff to express itself in this way. However, if what is meant is that we can all benefit by being exposed to people who hold viewpoints different from our own and experiences that are not the same as ours, then "racial diversity" is a strange shorthand for it. Fostering diversity of opinion, of experience, of family background to the extent possible- these may be legitimate educational goals. But these are all still possible after the Supreme Court decision, which continues to permit the use of socio-economic status and other less objectionable markers of diversity in school admissions. So what, again, was the Record's point?

As some in Teaneck seek a more vigorous dialogue over what diversity truly means, we ought to keep in mind that the filing of individuals into neat categories based on superficial characteristics is most certainly not in keeping with the spirit of respect for our fellow citizens as individuals that diversity is supposed to promote. We should take our cues from the younger generation. Those less saddled by the past and more in step with contemporary culture seem to be less cognizant of supposed racial differences. We could be well on the way toward building a colorblind society...if editorials from the Record don't screw it up.

50 Comments:

At 3:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's try county-wide school organization. U. Saddle River, et al should blend in with Teaneck.

 
At 3:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear God:

Why didn't you save the school children at:

Moses Lake , Washington 2/2/96
Bethel , Alaska 2/19/97
Pearl , Mississippi 10/1/97
West Paducah, Kentucky 12/1/97
Stamp, Arkansas 12/15/97
Jonesboro, Arkansas 3/24/98
Edinboro, Pennsylvania 4/24/98
Fayetteville , Tennessee 5/19/98
Springfield , Oregon 5/21/98
Richmond , Virginia 6/15/98
Littleton, Colorado 4/20/99
Taber , Alberta , Canada 5/28/99
Conyers , Georgia 5/20/99
Deming, New Mexico 11/19/99
Fort Gibson , Oklahoma 12/6/99
Santee , California 3/ 5/01
El Cajon , California 3/22/01 Virginia Tech 4/16/07



Sincerely,

Concerned Student

Reply:

Dear Concerned Student:

Sorry,

I am not allowed in schools!

Sincerely,

God

 
At 3:45 PM, Blogger esther said...

"We should take our cues from the younger generation. Those less saddled by the past and more in step with contemporary culture seem to be less cognizant of supposed racial differences.

And what of religious differences? Wouldn't it be great to be less cognizant of supposed religious differences as well?

 
At 3:56 PM, Blogger Teaneck Blog said...

Yes, but is anyone arguing that there are inborn differences among adherents of different religions and that school admissions should actively take religious background into account? Or are you making a more general point?

 
At 4:08 PM, Blogger esther said...

Yeah God - and I guess you weren't allowed to go to the Amish school in Nickel Mines, PA either?

 
At 4:13 PM, Blogger esther said...

Of course I'm making a more general point.

I believe that race and religion are similar in that they are both human constructs. I acknowledge that others may differ on the question of religion.

 
At 4:25 PM, Blogger Teaneck Blog said...

OK, agreed, but it's somewhat beside the point.

 
At 5:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately racism is alive and well. Racism is also for the most part based upon skin pigmentation.

It's just that racism is now much more subtle, and therefore that much more dangerous. I think its disingenuous to take the stance that in 'this day and age' race shouldn't matter.

Until you walk around in a different skin, you cannot possibly know who is 'less cognizant of supposed racial differences'

Society still has a long way to go, and integrating based upon skin pigmentation still has value as long as the majority of those in power (in the larger society) are still basically homogeneous.

 
At 5:20 PM, Blogger esther said...

Based on what white people in the playground say to me about the schools before they learn that I send my kids to the public schools, I can attest to the fact that racism is alive and well in Teaneck.

 
At 8:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Teaneck Blog,

The second post is wildly offensive for a variety of reasons. Making light of school shootings is wrong, and the post should be removed.

 
At 9:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the Biggest racists of them all?

1. Al Sharpton
2. Jessie Jackson
3. Louis Farakhan
4. Reginald Jackson
5. Malcolm X

Do you a see a trend here?

 
At 1:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your comment on the Record editorial is benighted, to say the least. Only a Rip Van Winkle who has been asllep for the past 50 years can believe that race in America is a "suprficial" matter. Wake up my friend and look around you. Race is one of the few primary issues affecting everybody in this society, but especially those who are black and brown. It is stupid of you to say otherwise.

 
At 7:47 AM, Blogger Teaneck Blog said...

You want to talk about "stupid" and "benighted?"

Keep perpetuating pseudoscientific categories like "race," dreamed up in the 19th century to categorize (and rank) humanity, in a 21st century America in which people of different ancestries mix freely, marry, and raise families of together. It's time to junk to concept of "race," which has held us in thrall long enough, and to start thinking in a more sophisticated way about individual human beings.

Beyond the principle of the matter, does the presence of an upper middle class child of a stable two parent family in which both parents attended four years of college and professional schools who happens to have dark skin bring diversity to a classroom of light skinned children of the same background?

Does that child share a commonality of experience and understanding with the child of a struggling young single mother who dropped out of high school and also happens to have dark skin? If so, what is it? A shared history of great-great-great grandparents who were enslaved in the South 150 years ago? The fact that both might at some point in their lives still face some discrimination from some boorish individual? How does that shape the individual today and how does it enhance the educational environment in a given school for the privileged young African-American to be inserted into a given classroom? This is tokenism at its worst. Reduction of the individual and the sum total of his traits and personal experiences to one inconsequential characteristic is foolish and wrong. This is precisely the negative behavior you claim is "affecting everybody in this society," and you want more of it? Talk about stupid...

 
At 9:34 AM, Blogger esther said...

"We should take our cues from the younger generation. Those less saddled by the past and more in step with contemporary culture seem to be less cognizant of supposed racial differences. We could be well on the way toward building a colorblind society...

I would venture to guess that those young people who are at the forefront of "building a colorblind society" and who are less "saddled with the past" probably got a good foundation in tolerance and acceptance by attending integrated public schools. How do you inculcate childen with this important ethos, if you send them to relgiously segregated parochial schools or economically segregated private prep schools?

 
At 9:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 9:03

Your remarks are ignorant

I recommend that you read the Autobiography of Malcom X

It clearly illustrates the growth and development of an individual and his journey to understand humankind.

He died much more enlightened than the small period of his life that is often glorified.

I hope you can learn from it.

 
At 9:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep perpetuating pseudoscientific categories like "race," dreamed up in the 19th century to categorize (and rank) humanity, in a 21st century America in which people of different ancestries mix freely, marry, and raise families of together. It's time to junk to concept of "race," which has held us in thrall long enough, and to start thinking in a more sophisticated way about individual human beings.

Your eutopian view does not help anyone deal with the realities of today.

The fact that both might at some point in their lives still face some discrimination from some boorish individual?

Not all expressed racism is obviously the result of a boorish individual. The ACT initlaitive in Teaneck is trying to undo some of the instituional racism that has been in existence for 200 years.

The fact is that someone looking at a middle class kid with two parents in a stable home is not initially perceived that way. The color os his skin brings automatic subconcious judgemetns that you may not even be aware of.

I recommend that you read "Blink" by Malcom Caldwell

http://www.amazon.com/Blink-Power-Thinking-Without/dp/0316010669/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-9397178-0069403?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183470579&sr=1-1

 
At 9:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I would venture to guess that those young people who are at the forefront of "building a colorblind society" and who are less "saddled with the past" probably got a good foundation in tolerance and acceptance by attending integrated public schools."

All because the school district is statistically diverse, does not make it integrated. Yes, they may all be under one building, but look at the racial/ethnic composition of your honors classes vs. the rest of the classes. Look at post-High School life paths. Segregation in our school continues, we've just shifted the segregated unit from the school to the classroom.

 
At 10:28 AM, Blogger esther said...

My kids have friends of all races. At this point, they are remarkably colorblind and I credit the Teaneck Schools in part helping to expose them to all different types of kids and to adults of all races in respected leadership positions.

In the fall, my oldest child starts middle school. I fear that this is when society's racism really starts to seep into kid's relationships with each other.

It happened to me when I was growing up in Teaneck. My best friend through 6th grade was African American. She distanced herself from me in 7th Grade at TJ partly because she was under pressure to stick with her own kind and not to act "white". It sucked then and I expect it to suck if and when it happens to my kids.

I still think that the benefits of being in an integrated school outweigh the risks. That's one of the reasons I moved to Teaneck.

 
At 10:39 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

"How do you inculcate childen with this important ethos, if you send them to relgiously segregated parochial schools or economically segregated private prep schools? "

I have to say that not all religous schools are made up of kids of one color nor are they just from one economic background.

My kids have friends of all races

Is this something that Teaneck public schools can only offer? I think not. I attended religious schools and made many friends that where not my color or from my economic background.

 
At 11:21 AM, Blogger Teaneck Blog said...

Forget Malcom X, I'll stick with Dr. King:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

As for this: Not all expressed racism is obviously the result of a boorish individual. The ACT initlaitive in Teaneck is trying to undo some of the instituional racism that has been in existence for 200 years.

One of the major accomplishments of the past 40 years was the diminution of odious institutional racism as a factor in American society. It may not be all gone yet, but we're getting much closer. Why take a step back toward it, when we've made so many strides toward confining real old-time racism to a few "boorish individuals" who are on their way out? Why do you want school admissions determined by "race?" What does race even mean?

 
At 2:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

TB,

Do you actually think that if Martin Luther King were alive today, he'd be taking your position on this? It's amazing to me how people of all political stripes -- including some to the right of you and some who really couldn't care less about "color blindness" -- expropriate this particular passage as if it's the entire body of the man's thinking and use it to justify positions and policies he not only wouldn't agree with but might well find inimical.

King was indeed expressing an ideal in that speech, but that certainly didn't mean he thought we'd reach the "Promised Land" with the simple elimination of de jure racism.

 
At 2:34 PM, Blogger esther said...

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At 2:35 PM, Blogger esther said...

Housing and hiring is where the rubber meets the road on the question of de facto racism. Here are snippets from two ilustrative articles:

From the NYTimes (2/2004):

"A report compiled by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now -- an advocacy group for low-income families known by its acronym Acorn -- found that while white testers sent into real estate agencies were told there were apartments available 93 percent of the time, black and Hispanic testers were told the same thing only 53 percent of the time. And while nearly a third of the minority testers were steered to different, usually less affluent areas, only 2 percent of the white testers were referred elsewhere.

And this from the Missouri Journal Sentinel (10/2003):

"Devah Pager, a sociologist at Northwestern University in Evanston, Ill., sent equally matched pairs of testers - two black and two white - to apply for low-skilled jobs at 350 places of employment in the Milwaukee area and found that white ex-offenders were more likely to be called back for an interview than black applicants who had no criminal record.

In this detailed study, bright, articulate, college students posed as job applicants. Even though the results were strikingly close, black men without criminal records were called back only 14% of the time, while whites with criminal records were called back 17% of the time."

 
At 6:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just read Prosnitz's outrageously inaccurate, one sided take on the council meeting. It goes beyond his normal level of incompetence. I am very angry that this is the "press" we get in Teaneck.

 
At 7:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How did you just read the Suburbanite? I don't get mine until Wednesday.

 
At 7:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wednesday is a holiday!

 
At 8:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you have some special connection to the Suburbanite, or did the paper get delivered a day early in your part of town?

 
At 9:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes. But it ain't worth reading--ever!!

 
At 12:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I take it back. I just read it again and it is 99% accurate. I apologize for being a liar.

 
At 7:34 AM, Blogger Teaneck Blog said...

Do you actually think that if Martin Luther King were alive today, he'd be taking your position on this? It's amazing to me how people of all political stripes -- including some to the right of you and some who really couldn't care less about "color blindness" -- expropriate this particular passage as if it's the entire body of the man's thinking and use it to justify positions and policies he not only wouldn't agree with but might well find inimical.

This is a nice attempt at diversion. I was not the one who made the argument by appeal to authority- it was you (or some other anonymous poster) who brought Malcolm X into it. Of course it doesn't matter whether Dr. King, were he alive today, were to renounce this idea completely. It's not about who said something, it's about the idea itself. Tell me again why there is merit in introducing race as a criterion in admissions decisions and why the Supreme Court has done an injustice by forcing schools to use distinctions such as economic status if they seek to balance their student demographics rather than skin color.

 
At 12:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Teaneck Blog said:

I was not the one who made the argument by appeal to authority- it was you (or some other anonymous poster) who brought Malcolm X into it.

Actually, Malcolm X was brought into it by a poster who listed him among the five "Biggest racists of them all." In response to that specific charge, anoter poster (not I) recommend that he read the Autobiography of Malcom X, because "it clearly illustrates the growth and development" of this individual, who "died much more enlightened than the small period of his life that is often glorified."

Why you think this was an appeal to authority that justified your counter-appeal is beyond me--unless, perhaps, you didn't read the poster at 9:50 a.m. carefully enough when she cited a work by a Malcolm Caldwell.

 
At 1:45 PM, Blogger esther said...

The author of Blink is Malcolm Gladwell, not Malcolm Caldwell.

 
At 3:02 PM, Blogger Teaneck Blog said...

Anonymous 2:24 pm-

It appears you are right. I did misconstrue the original Malcolm X comments as pertaining to the topic under discussion and not as a response to the troll.

Now that the record is straight as to who started what, do you have a response or were you only trying to argue a biographical point?

 
At 3:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Swurgle: Malcom X, Malcolm Caldwell, Malcolm Gladwell...in our brave new color-blind world, all Malcolms look alike. ;)

Teaneck Blog: I probably wouldn't have joined this discussion were it not for the biographical point. The propensity of anyone and everyone to invoke the name of Martin Luther King to make their arguments, many of which he clearly would not have endorsed, is a pet peeve of mine.

Now that I'm drawn into it, I think I'd like to see the minority opinion on this court decison, as well as the opinion of the swing justice, Kennedy, who conceded the need for some race-based decision-making. Replacing socio-economic criteria for race alone makes some sense on the surface, though the devil will be in the details. I also believe that African Americans are behind the white world's (and hell, maybe even the black world's) cognitive 8-ball from the get-go, and that diversity in our day-to-day relationships may be the only way to repair this situation. Then again, how will it be repaired if the only African Americans white America is exposed to are the most disadvantaged?

All very tough questions.

By the way, I am not the poster at 9:50 a.m. either, and I don't know his/her gender. I could claim that "she" is the new "he" for default pronoun purposes but I really meant to write "s/he".

 
At 4:07 PM, Blogger esther said...

Anonymous 2:24, 12:28 said...

"I also believe that African Americans are behind the white world's (and hell, maybe even the black world's) cognitive 8-ball from the get-go, and that diversity in our day-to-day relationships may be the only way to repair this situation. Then again, how will it be repaired if the only African Americans white America is exposed to are the most disadvantaged?"

I don't know what you meant to say in the above statement. You might want to clarify it to avoid being misunderstood.

 
At 4:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay...

In regard to being being "behind the white world's cognitive 8-ball," I was actually thinking about about what anonymous at 9:50 said:

The fact is that someone looking at a middle class kid with two parents in a stable home is not initially perceived that way. The color of his skin brings automatic subconcious judgemetns that you may not even be aware of.

I think it's true that much of white America makes subconscious pre-judgements about African Americans regardless of their actual background. My parenthetical comment is based on something I read or saw on TV that indicated that even African Americans are sometimes affected by this pre-judice.

My last sentence speaks to the idea that instead of race we use strictly socio-economic factors to integrate the populace, particularly our school kids. I think that all middle class & up kids need to be exposed to disadvantaged kids, but I also think that white middle class & up kid need to be exposed to black middle-class & up kids too.

Does that help? I hope so. As you said somewhere else, there are landmines aplenty in discussions such as this.

 
At 5:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should take our cues from the younger generation.


It's not JUST the younger generation. This isnt a new idea, just an old one that gets perverted time and again.

The idea that aiming for diversity in order to find tolerance in society and mutual respect for your fellow man is not a new one. It's unfortunately not the first time that people shout the mantra as an end unto itself either. While diversity started as a method to achieve something - somewhere along the line, people seemed to forget that!

I sugest you read these words that were penned by Frederick Douglas in 1865. They may as well have been written yesterday.

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=495

"I understand the anti-slavery societies of this country to be based on two principles,--first, the freedom of the blacks of this country; and, second, the elevation of them. Let me not be misunderstood here. I am not asking for sympathy at the hands of abolitionists, sympathy at the hands of any. I think the American people are disposed often to be generous rather than just. I look over this country at the present time, and I see Educational Societies, Sanitary Commissions, Freedmen’s Associations, and the like,--all very good: but in regard to the colored people there is always more that is benevolent, I perceive, than just, manifested towards us. What I ask for the Negro is not benevolence, not pity, not sympathy, but simply justice. [Applause.] The American people have always been anxious to know what they shall do with us. Gen. Banks was distressed with solicitude as to what he should do with the Negro. Everybody has asked the question, and they learned to ask it early of the abolitionists, "What shall we do with the Negro?" I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are wormeaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall! I am not for tying or fastening them on the tree in any way, except by nature’s plan, and if they will not stay there, let them fall. And if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone! If you see him on his way to school, let him alone, don’t disturb him! If you see him going to the dinner table at a hotel, let him go! If you see him going to the ballot- box, let him alone, don’t disturb him! [Applause.] If you see him going into a work-shop, just let him alone,--your interference is doing him a positive injury."

 
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At 11:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom Abbott said...
Looks like someone worked out if they make inappropriate comments Friday night they don't get removed quickly.


Nice try, Tom.

Sunset is not till 8:30 PM so there's plenty of time to have it removed before then.

 
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At 9:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous is a shtik fleysh mit oygn.

 
At 10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are the Democrats holding their meeting at a church? Doesn't everybody realize that Orthodox Jewish Halachic law prevents Orthodox Jews from entering churches? Or do they?

 
At 7:46 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

Anonymous 10:00-

You are joking right? Orthodox cant step into a church? Was this something new after WWII or has it always been so?

 
At 9:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Swurgle, you're so predictable. Every issue is an argument for Jews to abandon day school education. It's just not persuasive to anyone who is interested in preserving Jewish identity. Education is the single most powerful factor in assuring the continuity of the Jewish community, something we have the right to pursue both ethically and politically. Rates of intermarriage and assimilation are issues for the Jewish community and for you to constantly post pleas that we abandon our program are a waste of your time and ours.
I raise my children to have respect for every ethnic group in our society. So does the religious school they attend. It may not be for you but your constant disparagement of day school education is tiresome.

 
At 11:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous,

Your comment has me most perplexed. At what point did Swurgle make the suggestion you say she did? I would concur that Swurgle is unabashedly pro-public school, but that stance doesn't make her anti- anything. Please provide the facts for your allegation.

 
At 12:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Norma Desmond -

Swurgle said, "How do you inculcate childen with this important ethos, if you send them to relgiously segregated parochial schools or economically segregated private prep schools? "

While I can understand the sentiment, I do not believe that sending children to a public school is the ONLY way of instilling this ethos. For the record, I attended both public and private schools.

 
At 8:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Norma,
Read through the archives. You'll see that Swurgle constantly comments... and who is the group in town that unabashedly supports non-public education? The Orthodox. It's enough already. You know you're not going to talk us out of our commitments and convince anyone to give up day school education for the public schools so just stop already.

 

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