Why public preschool?
Bergen Health & Life is not normally on my reading list. However, when the cover of the Holiday 2006 edition of this free, advertisement packed glossy magazine promised predictions on the future of Bergen County from nine local "luminaries," I couldn't help but pick it up. While many of the "predictions" were more like reflections on the current state of the art in drama, fashion, and other such lighter pursuits, one particular item caught my eye. In it, Bergen County Superintendent of Schools Aaron Graham opines on future development in public education in Bergen County, and says the following:
Expect to see a growth in early-childhood education. Locally, more districts are putting preschool programs in place; in five years, most will have an active half-day or full-day program. Many districts in our poorer, largely urban areas already have an early-childhood education requirement, but I think all schools will soon mandate it. Districts with greater needs will fund these programs with state aid; those that receive less outside money will rely on their own local taxes. The research points to the dramatic development children have prior to entering school -- the earlier we get them, the more positive an impact we can make.The prediction may prove to be 100% accurate. Dr. Graham, of all people, ought to know. But even as increased enrollment in preschool programs would probably be a good thing for our youth and a boost to the educational performance of our schools, it is far less certain that state or local government should foot the bill for this.
From a fiscal perspective, one could certainly have chosen a better time to expand the definition of public education to include the early childhood years. Simply put, there is no money for this. Districts are having a hard enough time furnishing a quality education to school-age children at the current level of funding, and taxpayers are already shelling out about all they can right now. The large sums that would be required to add a whole new layer of infrastructure and personnel to the public education system in order to expand it to three and four year olds are not there for the taking.
But even if we could pay for it, should we? Should early childhood education be mandated, even if it is widely considered beneficial? If it should be mandated, or even just strongly encouraged, should the cost be borne by all taxpayers? I have a hard time seeing why the answer to any of these questions should be yes.
Sure, a Western European social democrat would not think twice about tossing this benefit onto the pile of others that the government (often inefficiently) provides. If one doesn't dream of abdicating ones decisions to an enormous nanny state, it becomes much harder to argue that preschool programs should not be the sole responsibility of parents or guardians. Yes, Dr. Graham, research does indicate that early childhood education is helpful. Great. So is proper nutrition, good hygiene, and sufficient exercise. If I raise a child, it is my responsibility to ensure that the child gets all of those things. Why shouldn't it also be my responsibility to see to it that my child is prepared to enter school?
There is no fine line or slippery slope here. Publicly funded primary and secondary education is there to ensure the continuance of our democracy and promote self-sufficiency and civic responsibility among citizens. It may be beneficial to attend preschool prior to undergoing mandatory schooling, but it is only incidental to accomplishing the objectives of public education. If you want your child to have this advantage, you ought to pay your own way or find someone else to help you do it. No, your child should not be penalized if you truly, honestly cannot afford both food and shelter and early childhood education. Everyone else should decide if it is truly a personal priority and budget accordingly.
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I'm not an education expert, but my understanding of current research on the benefits of pre-school are significantly greater that "incidental to accomplishing the objectives of public education."
Children who don't attend quality pre-school programs are at a distinct disadvantage starting in kindergarden and that disadvantage widens over time. Anyone who has even a casual commitment to narrowing the achievement gap between children of different socio-economic backgrounds should be in favor of publically funded pre-school.
Pardon my spelling and grammatical errors.
pre-school offers no advantages for kids (in most cases)...the only perk is that your kids wont cryon the first day of Kindergarten...any educational perks are cought up by the non PRe-K group by 1-2 grade!
Anyone who has even a casual commitment to narrowing the achievement gap between children of different socio-economic backgrounds should be in favor of publically funded pre-school
Why? Can one not support efforts to make sure all students achieve proficiency without taking on the responsibility to pay for preschool? Aren't the potential benefits of preschool great enough that any responsible parent would opt to pay for it rather than allow his or her children to fail in school?
Swurgle, Research says that the presence of computers in the home is an advantage for many children. Research says that having educated parents is an advantage for many children. Research says that the opportunity to travel is an advantage for many children. So let's see: we should buy every child a computer. We should send their parents back to school. We should provide paid vacations. Just because something is beneficial doesn't mean the state should provide it. Then again, we could always raise property taxes.
Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of people kvetching about property taxes in New Jersey. Nobody is putting a gun to your heads to live here. I hear that property taxes are extremely reasonable in New York City.
And on the issue of public preschool - you can either invest upfront when they're three or you pay at the back end for welfare and/or incarceration. Your choice.
Swurgle-
Anybody who listened to Dr. McGarrit's report tonight and watched the phlegmatic response by the superintendent got the impression of a very dysfunctional school system that is not using its money to advance the interests of the children. What the system clearly needs is to be rebuilt from the bottom up. Every level of administration needs revamping so the schools can function. Lots of money is going down the drain the way it is set up now. Losing kids after the fourth grade is a horror story. If you missed the meeting on channel 77, try to get a tape.
Swurgle,
I think the beginning of your last comment had a bit of an edge. I would chide anyone who suggests you should pack it in and move to Hawaii or Massachusettes because of your political views.
Teaneck Blog said...
Publicly funded primary and secondary education is there to ensure the continuance of our democracy and promote self-sufficiency and civic responsibility among citizens.
I've seen statements that reflect this idea before, but never the restriction to just primary and secondary education. For example number 10 in the Top 10 Reasons to Support Public Education.
I’ve been told it’s older, but the furthest back I have traced it is to the common-school movement of the 1830's and 1840's. The idea was used to promote the idea of public elementary schools. It took till the end of the 19th century for public elementary school education to be available throughout the country and till 1918 for the last state to pass compulsory elementary education laws.
Public secondary education was largely a development of the 20th century. During the 20th century the percentage of teenagers graduating from High School went from about 6% to 88%. In addition to increased availability of public education, a combination of factors led to this rise not the least of which was the passage of strict child labor laws.
Public support for higher education has also been around for centuries. The Federal government added it’s financial support to state universities more recently with the passage of the Morill Act in 1862. It included the establishment of many new land-grant colleges. During the 20th century enrollment in colleges for those aged 18-24 went from 2% to 60%. The growth has been spurred by public financial support for higher education including the 1944 GI Bill.
The arguments against and questions raised about public funding of early-childhood education have likely been used every time there were attempts to increase the scope or levels of public funding. Over time they have not prevailed. I doubt if they will this time either. As the public gains more understanding of the importance of early-childhood education, Superintendent Graham’s predictions will probably prove true.
swurgle said ...
Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of people kvetching about property taxes in New Jersey.
I understand your frustration. What happened to the good old days when the Republicans ranted and raved over income taxes.
Swurgle...
So know attending pre-school means that you will never be on welfare or in jail??? What a nice jump in conclusions :)
Anonymous -
The presentation Wednesday night was by Dr. Noguerra, and was a substantive report on academic achievement commissioned by the Board of Education at the Superintendent's recommendation. Both parties are taking the report (of which last night's presentation was just a brief overfiew) seriously and will be discussing the recommendations in addition to the ACT sub-committees' recommendations presented in October very seriously as this is a top priority. But let's be clear -- Dr. Noguerra's recommendations also included some items that the Board has already moved forward on as well as some that the Board needs to stop stalling about. He also said the problem can only be solved by a solid ongoing commitment from all participants - students, parents, teachers, administrators AND the wider community.
AHHH!!!!
I can see pushing Pre-K in places like Newark or Paterson but Teaneck..please!
If a Teaneck resident wants their kiddies in Pre-K let them spend their money...I am tired of funding B.S. programs with my tax money that do nothing but waste fundsbetter spent somewhere else!
Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of people kvetching about property taxes in New Jersey. Nobody is putting a gun to your heads to live here. I hear that property taxes are extremely reasonable in New York City.
I'm sorry, I must have missed the revolution and subsequent declaration of New Jersey as a 'workers' paradise.' Though this time, I didn't hear anybody complain about property taxes. Rather, there was a principled objection to the expansion of the taxpayer supported public education system to encompass early childhood education.
And on the issue of public preschool - you can either invest upfront when they're three or you pay at the back end for welfare and/or incarceration. Your choice.
Well, when you put it that way, it appears someone is in effect putting a gun to our heads, no?
But seriously, this is not the choice facing Teaneck or most other neighboring communities with solid middle class demographics and values. The choice is whether to heap additional burden on all citizens to provide an additional perk of uncertain quality to parents of young children or whether to trust those parents to make the right choices for their children on their own. Since money is an object and there are very good reasons to be skeptical of public institutions' abilities to do this right, there has to be a very compelling case on the other side to explain why everyone should be compelled to make a huge investment and take on what has traditionally been the responsibility of the parents to provide (and which many, if not all, already do).
Chesster sarcastically said...
Then again, we could always raise property taxes.
swurgle immediately followed with ...
Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of people kvetching about property taxes in New Jersey.
Teaneck Blog ...
Though this time, I didn't hear anybody complain about property taxes.
That was clearly not the main point of my post or Chesster's, and you know that.
There was absolutely nothing positive about the Teaneck system in Dr. Noguerra's report. It was hard to believe he was presenting a system not in the inner city. All his recommendations were to do things that every decent modern system is already doing. The need for heterogeneous classes on every level to the exclusion of honors and APs to stamp out the destruction of male minority students after the fourth grade was quite clear.
The system requires total rebuilding.
HE did present a system that was in the inner city...have you seen the demographics of the Teaneck schools...it looks like the inner city to me!
to get a heterogeneous mix in the schools you are gonna need more whites, asians etc....your gonna have to prove to us that the Teaneck schools are better than the private schools we send our kids too...your gonna have a tough time doing that!
You don't need to change the populace of the school system, nor the teachers. However, changing the administration 100% from the Super down is necessary for the radical change that will make every child attending the Teaneck schools succeed. Schools that teach each and every child are schools that are successful. In order to teach every child there has to be a positive expectation for every child. One of the worst items reported last night was the fact that children get labeled early on and cannot get rid of their bad reputations no matter how hard they work. The absence of educational leadership is encapsulated in that one fact. A true educational leader would make it clear every minute that the child is being taught, not the subject. Let us demand that we get our money's worth and that we get children we are proud of by the time they come out of the Teaneck system.
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If they get rid of honors and AP classes and the gifted and talented program, white folks like me will be out the door in a heartbeat.
why swurgle...dont want your kids to mingle with the less smart?
The principled commitment to diversity and community involvement need not extend so far as disadvantaging ones own children...
And by the way, you can be sure that it isn't just white students who would leave if the schools ceased to offer a full selection of suitable classes for high achievers.
nope I am sure that the asians would follow us out the door too :)
and then who is going to be left..the underachievers, that are not white or asian.
Despite what the Visioning process has concluded, we don't need a paid community relations expert to teach us how to coexist in Teaneck. What we do need is to recognize that none of the "many communities" that make up Teaneck is monolithic. Not the black community, not the Orthodox Jewish community, not the Muslim community, not the Asian community, etc.
African-American families are also alarmed by the situation in Teaneck's public schools and may be even more sensitive to it than others are as their children are more likely to be subjected to negative peer pressure to reject academic achievement. This is not a potential "white flight" problem- the potential is for all ambitious parents with relatively easy to educate, academically inclined children to leave the school system. It's not a 100% minority school system that is a frightening prospect, it's a 100% unengaged, unmotivated school system that is the nightmare scenario.
Swurgle, You seem like a caring person. I think you should reread your comments. They smack of an unintended racism. We are all concerned with education, not just liberal White Jews. Second, I think your comments about welfare and incarceration are a little hysterical. Third, please don't invite the tax base of Teaneck to move out. I shudder to think what would happen to all public education without them. Fourth, my property taxes have skyrocketed since I moved here. The rules to some extent were changed in midcourse after my family roots were already established. Wouldn't it be better to make them more comparable to similar communities? Is that unfair? I usually enjoy your comments but think you didn't think these out.
the potential is for all ambitious parents with relatively easy to educate, academically inclined children to leave the school system
that is the problem with the system now...there are not ENOUGH ambitious, caring parents. THey figure it is not my job to educate my kids..you (the schools) have them for 6 hours per day you do it..that is the wring attitude and that leads to the problems that we have now!
African-American families are also alarmed by the situation in Teaneck's public schools and may be even more sensitive to it than others are as their children are more likely to be subjected to negative peer pressure to reject academic achievement.
Yup that is the problem now..so what are they (the black) parents going to do about it? Unless they realize it is not a cop-out to their race to be educated their kids will not get the message that education is a good thing!
And more money is not going to solve the problem!
Chesster - Forgive my comments last night - I was feeling a tad cranky.
Frankly, I don't know what to do about underachieving kids in the school system. From my vantage point the schools are doing a terrific job. My kid's friends are sweet smart kids who come in a rainbow of colors. The enrichment programs, which are utilized by kids from all backgrounds , are terrific and abolishing them would drive me to Dwight Englewood.
Underachieving kids need to have their parents kicked in the ass...this is the reason they are the way they are!
It's very important to emphasize that parents of all races are concerned about the drop in achievement in the schools.
One good step in the right direction would be for every student and parent to take personal responsibility for their behavior, and stop blaming others. Not every student will take all APs and go to Harvard, but performance to me is also about making a positive contribution to the school and community.
I don't consider it respectful when students use a modern variation of a hateful word, litter, and walk in the middle of the street.
I also don't like it when I hear students use slang to the point that I can't understand what the heck they are trying to say. It is perceived as ignorant, and in this world perception becomes your reality.
If I could walk into THS and see less kids behaving along the lines I describe, I personally would be less hung up on demographics and test scores and maybe even the costs of education.
swurgle:
Before heading out the door you might consider the source of your information. I was not at Dr. Noguerra presentation but I have checked with a board member who was. There was nothing resembling a recommendation that AP or honors courses be shut down. (I did not ask specifically about the gifted and talented program.) Taking anything the anonymous trolls say at face value is risky at best.
I suspect msjk's post is far more accurate.
The report itself should be available to the public several months from now when it is complete.
Tom - I'm not heading out the door. I'm too earthy Dwight Englewood and I would never send my kids to a parochial school of any kind.
There are alot of people out there who appear to take great pleasure in mischaracterizing the public school system. I can only go on my personal impressions, based on actual experiences with actaul children, and I'm very satsified and the school system that I see with my own eyes. It bears no relationship to the one often described by people on this and other blogs. It's confounding.
As for the trolls, I've gotten some complaints from people about some of things that the troll(s) say(s) over on Teaneck Progress. I know he/she/they will never go completely away, but I'm thinking about making changes to the Teaneck Progress blog to deal with troll issue.
Swurgle-
D.E. is not a religious school...did you not know that? It is simply a mediocore private school :)
Once again glad to hear that you think the P.S. are great and wonderful but from my personal experience if you are white, smart and ambtious they are not the place to be!
Once again glad to hear that you think the P.S. are great and wonderful but from my personal experience if you are white, smart and ambtious they are not the place to be!
The undercurrent of racism that pops up whenever education is discussed is so distressing to me. This is not what I expected from Teaneck. When I moved here, 12 years ago, I chose this town because it seemed socially progressive. The line that my realtor used to rope me in was that Teaneck was the first school district to voluntarily integrate.
My multicultural family is smart and ambitious and is benefitting greatly from the Teaneck Public School system.
Just because slang seems foreign to you, and just because kids feel safe enough to walk in the middle of the street and choose to wear the clothes they are wearing or listen to the music they like (doesn't this sound familiar? anyone remember the sixties?)doesn't mean they all do not appreciate education, or mean that they are all thugs in training.
Climb out of your little world and learn something about the people around you.
Distressed-
My kids wear what they want and listen to what they want...they do not speak in slang but in ENGLISH so ALL can understand them (oh what a concept)..my kids do not like the P.S. why becuase they are the minority, meaning that they are white, smart (honors and AP classes, dont speak in slag, wear clothes that fit etc.) and most of the student body is not these things...Have you seen the kids that leave the schools at the end of the day...I can count perhaps 10-15 that I see that are white the rest are something else.
While Teaneck may be full of whites, blacks, asisans etc. the schools are not! What does that tell ya...it tells me one or two things, the education is not what most folks want for their kids, the enviroment is not what most people want for thier kids...
I think you where "snowed" by your realtor (he or she was just out ot make a sale..cha-ching!)
anon-
Since you missed the point of what I was trying to say - let me try again:
As a member of a multicultural family living in Teaneck, it distresses me that the people who care enough about to follow Teaneck politics, discuss public education and other administrative policies on blogs, etc. are so d$$% racist.
one more thing - 'diversity' means that sometimes the balance of races is not what you are used to.
It's amazing to me that people are comfortable with diversity as long as thier kid is in the majority - the second it swings the other way - it's a sign of something 'very wrong' with the system.
My kids have also attended the public schools. They each had moments where they expressed acknowledgement of their status as a "majority-minority" but said their classmates never made them feel uncomfortable. They have many friends of different creeds and colors, and when each graduated (not all at the top of their class, by the way), they attended excellent colleges. When my kids have come back on college breaks, they mention at times how odd it is that some of their college friends are uncomfortable getting to know people of a different race or religion. I am proud of both the education and social experience my children have had in the public schools.
I have no issues with diversity as long it does not effect my kids education ....in this case diversity has a negative effect on my kids education if they attended P.S. here in town.
The highschool my eldest attends has Catholics, Jews, Hindus muslims etc. and all colors the difference is that the kids all want to learn so the enviroment is one that is friendlier to that gaol than what the P.S. offer..what a shame!
In this weeks "Insider" there is an interesting quote from a White Teaneck Resident..."black youths tune out education by the third grade".... the black parents need to do something about this...I as a white can not help these black kids want to do well in school and value education, this unfortunatly is something that has been a problem for many years and just now the Teaenck people have figured it out?
...the people who care enough about to follow Teaneck politics, discuss public education and other administrative policies on blogs, etc. are so d$$% racist.
Accused of racism again!
distressed -
I see nothing wrong with a little world where parents teach their children to not walk in the middle of the street (or the railroad for that matter). I don't feel safe enough to drive on the sidewalks.
And I certainly see nothing wrong with a little world where children are taught not to say words that I personally consider to be hateful, disgusting, and full of race-related notations, let alone obscenities. It's OKAY for people not to tolerate that.
If this is what you consider to be "socially progressive", then I feel extremely sorry for the world in which you live.
I have no idea why I bother. And I'm sure I'll regret this - but here goes:
Tom Abbott - I don't think you are the only one posting here (if you are - I think I've stumbled into bizzaro world) If you object to my accusation because you are part of this group and I made a generalization - well that's pretty much the point, isn't it?
anon 2:15 - not every piece of slang is hateful and disgusting. But if you are talking about the 'N' word - I do agree.
That said - you continue to miss the point. Just because the majority of the current student population of Teaneck is non-white (and has other cultural means of expression), does not mean the student body does not value education.
There is bell curve in every institution, even in the esteemed (presumably) school your children attend. If you don't think so - You suffer from selective vision.
distressed -
It was more a comment on the generalization than an objection.
anon 2:15 great post...totally agree!
Distressed..there is no bell curve in the school my kids attend...that is what makes it more accountable to the students and parents...also they do not allow under achievers to attend...their is a standard and not many can attain that standard to attend :)
What school?
Private Catholic School (not in Bergen County) :)
Distressed - What makes this comparison unfair is that you are comparing apples to oranges. Private schools have the right to be selective in their student body, but the public schools must accept everyone who walks through the doors, including dquite a few who could not possibly afford the luxury of a private school as well as those like me who prefer to expose their children to a wider diversity and still remain involved in their schooling. I agree, it's a shame not all parents feel that way, especially when their kids get older and enter high school. To me, that is the weakest link in public education, where those at home abandon their responsibility to demand kids do the work they are assigned and show respect to those who are trying to teach them.
Distressed - What makes this comparison unfair is that you are comparing apples to oranges. Private schools have the right to be selective in their student body, but the public schools must accept everyone who walks through the doors, including dquite a few who could not possibly afford the luxury of a private school as well as those like me who prefer to expose their children to a wider diversity and still remain involved in their schooling.
you can get diversity in private schools..my sons schools have always had lots of diversity.
And yes they do not need to accept the trouble makers (thank God) and most of them accept a wide range of academic abilities (well except kids that fail or are near failing)
I agree, it's a shame not all parents feel that way, especially when their kids get older and enter high school. To me, that is the weakest link in public education, where those at home abandon their responsibility to demand kids do the work they are assigned and show respect to those who are trying to teach them
EXACTLY...
Dr. Nuegara made the point that lots of schools with heavy minority populations succeed in giving kids a fine education. He specifically pointed to a school in Mott Haven. Race is not responsible for the poor education in Teaneck. Re-organizing the schools to meet the needs of each child will do the trick. It will be hard but it will require new leadership and a commitment by all parents.
anon-
the committment part by all parents is where the issue/problem lies...not all parents care as is sadly seen by just looking at what is in the P.S.
Anonymous at 9:56 wrote:
"Dr. Nuegara made the point that lots of schools with heavy minority populations succeed in giving kids a fine education. He specifically pointed to a school in Mott Haven."
I don't think Dr. Nuegara said there are "lots of schools." I think he said there are SOME predominately minority schools around the country that have succeed defying the national norm and have produced a greater number of high-achieving students.
Definitely, we should look at these schools carefully. Certainly, we will find many good ideas, techniques and programs that we may be able to duplicate. But we may also discover that there are conditions at these schools that we cannot duplicate.
As for the school at Mott Haven that Dr. Nuegara specifically pointed to, is this the Mott Village Preparatory High School? If so, we need to be very careful about comparing this sweet, little, easy-to-peel clementine to an orange.
According to this web page (copy and paste each line into your brower with no spaces)...
http://schools.nyc.gov/
Offices/StudentEnroll/HSAdmissions/
HSDirectory/Book/?sid=779
...it appears that this small, 345-student school is a magnet high school for motivated students and families, NOT a school that has to educate all comers.
At the bottom of the web page, it lists this school's selection method as "Limited Unscreened." So while there is a set cutoff in the number of students this school will take, to its credit it appears that there aren't any set academic/test score requirements.
HOWEVER, at the top left of the web page under "Eligibility" it says, "Priority to students who attend an information session; then to Bronx residents." From this I wonder whether the information session is open to students city-wide. More important, I am sure that the students and families who attend the information session receive an earful on the level of commitment and work required if they CHOOSE to go to this school. So even if this school doesn't overtly select the motivated cream of the crop, it is likely that the motivated cream of the crop selects the school.
Again, this is not to say that this school has nothing to offer Teaneck in the way of ideas and techniques. But as Dr. Nuegara said, Teaneck's endeavor will require much hard work.
He also said that the effort can't succeed if we bog ourselves down in a blame game. But if we nurture the myth that there are magic bullets out there that, as Anonymous at 9:56 so flippantly said, "will do the trick" if only we have leaders who will recognize the obvious, then blame is implicit. Clearly, it is also less than honest.
Maybe Mott Haven is so suffesful because they have a DRESS CODE? Or could it be that the kdis that are there reallty want to learn and their parents support them in this?
I have a feeling it is a combination of #2 that makes the kids a success and why Teaneck has such issues...the parents do not care and the kids dont want to learn in this flippin town! Perhaps for the kdis that do not want an education we could send them into the work force instead of pissing out funds away on them!
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